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• Caretaker cabinet approves up to 3,900pc increase in fixed monthly charges, 194pc in consumer rates • New Haj policy approved; privatisation of Pakistan Steel Mills halted Rehan Ahmed ISLAMABAD: The caretaker cabinet on Monday approved a whopping increase of up to 3,900 per cent in the fixed monthly charges, and 194 per cent in the consumer rates for natural gas, which will open floodgates to a fresh bout of inflation. In effect, the average gas cost for protected consumer slabs (0.25hm3 to 0.9hm3) would jump by up to 300pc, in view of the cumulative impact of higher fixed charges, while their annual bill is estimated to rise by up to 150 per cent. “The federal government… approved increase in the price of natural gas for different categories of the consumers as advised by the Ogra with effect from November 1, 2023,” said a summary issued by the petroleum division after the cabinet meeting. According to the statement, the cabinet referred the s...

QUETTA: The Pakistan Railways restored train services at Sibi-Harnai section on Sunday. The train services on the section were suspended 18 years ago when militants had destroyed main bridges and railway tracks in 2005. Balochistan caretaker Chief Minister Mir Ali Mardan Domki and caretaker Minister for Railways, Communications and Maritime Affairs Shahid Ashraf Tarar inaugurated the train service at a ceremony held at the Sibi Railway Station. On the demand of the people of Sibi and Harnai, the Pakistan Railways had started reconstruction of railway bridges and laying new railways tracks with the support of members of security forces. There was no road link between Sibi and Harnai which used to cause great difficulties for the people of both cities. Militants destroyed main bridges and railway tracks in 2005 Mr Tarar, while inaugurating the Sibi-Harnai train service, announced that Bolan Mail service, linking Quetta to Karachi, will also be restored on Dec ember...

Party decides to initiate dialogue with political parties http://dlvr.it/Sy5Wdf

ویب ڈیسک: پاکستان کے سابق وزیراعظم اور مسلم لیگ نون کے رہنماء شاہد خاقان عباسی کو بیرون ملک جانے سے روک دیا گیا۔ ذرائِع کے مطابق شاہد خاقان عباسی اسلام آباد سے چین جا رہے تھے کہ سٹاپ لسٹ میں مزید پڑھیں The post شاہد خاقان عباسی کو بیرون ملک جانے سے روک دیا گیا appeared first on Mashriq TV. http://dlvr.it/Sy3mvd

ISLAMABAD: The recent surge in gas prices would be instrumental in curbing the gas sector’s circular debt, which has swelled to Rs2,100 billion, Caretaker Energy Minister Muhammad Ali said on Thursday but painted a bleak picture for the coming winter, with gas supply duration limited to just eight hours a day. Briefing the media, Mr Ali said that the current circular debt for the entire energy sector was Rs4,500bn without interest payments and it included Rs2,300bn in the electricity sector. “There will not be a resurgence of the circular debt in the gas sector after the recent increase in gas prices,” he said, adding that the government was working to avoid the addition of further circular debt in the power sector under a commitment with the International Monetary Fund. As for the recent gas price hike, the caretaker minister said there had been no price change during the first half (July to December 2022) of the previous fiscal year. He said the prices did increase in the...

The Islamabad High Court (IHC) on Thursday rejected PTI Chairman Imran Khan’s petition challenging his indictment in the cipher case. IHC Chief Justice Aamer Farooq disposed of the former premier’s plea but directed that Imran be provided a “fair trial”. The cipher case pertains to a diplomatic document that the charge sheet claims was never returned by Imran. The PTI alleges that the document contained a threat from the United States to oust Imran from office. The PTI chief was convicted and sentenced to three years in prison in the Toshakhana graft case on Aug 5. The IHC suspended his sentence on August 29 but he remained in jail because he was on judicial remand in the cipher case. On Sept 30, the Federal Investigation Agency (FIA) had submitted a challan — a charge sheet — in a special court established under the Official Secrets Act naming PTI leader Shah Mahmood Qureshi and Imran as the principal accused in the case. On Monday, both the PTI leaders were indicted in...

An Islamabad anti-terrorism court (ATC) on Wednesday issued perpetual arrest warrants for nine PTI leaders in a case relating to violence outside the Federal Judicial Complex (FJC). Judge Abul Hasnat Zulqarnain issued arrest warrants for Hammad Azhar, Shibli Faraz, Murad Saeed, Omar Ayub Khan and Ali Amin Gandapur. Perpetual arrest warrants were also issued for Ali Nawaz Awan, Hassaan Khan Niazi, Umer Sultan and Muhammad Asim. The court also issued arrest warrants for Farrukh Habib, who had parted ways with the PTI earlier this month. The court came to the decision after the suspects’ failure to appear before the court despite being summoned. The court directed that since the suspects had been declared proclaimed offenders, they should be apprehended and presented. The case pertains to clashes between the police and PTI workers in March amid party chairman Imran Khan’s appearance at the FJC in a hearing for the Toshakhana case. In the violent confrontation, a contingent ...

We are sticking to our decision…there will not be any flexibility, says official http://dlvr.it/SxynNK

Issues perpetual arrest warrants for 10 PTI leaders http://dlvr.it/Sxyn7K

President says Imran Khan is still his leader, claims he would be in jail if he was not in Aiwan-e-Sadr today http://dlvr.it/Sxymtp

PTI chief's plea argues trial court overlooked lack of central evidence related particularly to cypher telegraphs http://dlvr.it/SxymTL

ISLAMABAD: Caretaker Prime Minister Anwaarul Haq Kakar has ordered relevant authorities to expedite the implementation of projects undertaken in collaboration with China and to ensure an uninterrupted supply of fertiliser to the farmers during the Rabi season. In his meeting with Planning Minister Sami Saeed on Tuesday, the PM discussed the implementation of projects agreed upon during his recent visit to China, according to APP. During the visit, the two countries signed 20 agreements and MoUs in several sectors, including infrastructure and mining. Separately, while chairing a meeting to review the provision of urea for the Rabi crop, the caretaker PM ordered the officials to arrange fertiliser stock in the country. Vows to resist elements opposing polio vaccination PM Kakar also ordered the timely and uninterrupted fertiliser supply to the farmers. Directives were also issued to relevant ministries for a comprehensive mechanism for the smooth supply of fertiliser...

HYDERABAD: Jamaat-i-Islami Pakistan’s emir Sirajul Haq has said that establishment most often supports corrupt politicians but it is now a test for judiciary to deal with convicted PML-N supremo Nawaz Sharif, who has returned to the country after four-years of self-exile. Haq said at a gathering of JI workers here on Monday that what would Mr Sharif, who failed to deliver in his past three terms as premier, do if he were elected prime minister for the fourth time. He said that Nawaz’s brother was a prime minister in the Pakistan Democratic Movement government while other party leaders held important portfolios. As long as dynastic politics remained entrenched in Pakistan, democracy could not flourish, he said. He said the country faced a critical situation as it suffered from multiple ailments like weak economy, bad governance and corruption. Says democracy cannot flourish as long as dynastic politics remain entrenched in Pakistan He said the current government policie...

KARACHI: Caretaker Chief Minister retired Justice Maqbool Baqar was on Sunday informed that the provincial cabinet had not formally approved minimum wage of Rs32,000 in the province. The CM was presiding over a joint meeting of the labour department and a 29-member delegation of the Pakistan Institute of Labour Education and Research (Piler), led by its Executive Director Karamat Ali, here at the CM House. He heard issues being faced by labourers working in various industrial units and ordered the department to resolve them. The meeting took up the issue of implementation of the minimum wage of Rs32,000, which was announced by the previous government on the floor of the Sindh Assembly. In reply to a question, Labour Secretary Shariq Ahmed told the CM that the Rs32,000 minimum wage was yet to be approved by the cabinet. Baqar asks labour dept to ensure level-playing field for women workers; orders inspection of industrial units The CM asked him to float a summ...

Spokesperson says ACE conducting raids to arrest fugitives wanted in various cases of corruption http://dlvr.it/SxpwqS

National flag carrier cancels a whopping 72 flights in single day http://dlvr.it/Sxpwh8

Denies targeting Afghans, saying focus is on people who are living illegally in country http://dlvr.it/SxpwY2

Senior leader emphasises need to assemble team of capable and committed individuals to address country’s challenges http://dlvr.it/SxpwMX

LAHORE: An anti-terrorism court (ATC) on Saturday allowed the police to question fashion designer Khadija Shah in another case of torching police vehicles near Rahat Bakery Chowk, Canton­ment, during the May 9 riots. Sarwar Road police Investi­gating Officer (IO) Naveed Anjum filed an application seeking permission to investigate Ms Shah in the jail. He said the Lahore High Court (LHC) had granted bail to the suspect in two cases related to the attacks on Jinnah House and Askari Tower. He said the suspect was still in jail because the process of furnishing surety bonds in those two cases had not been completed. He asked the court to allow him to investigate the suspect in the jail. Judge Abher Gul Khan allowed the application filed by the IO. ATC denies Sanam Javed’s judicial remand in Askari Tower case A two-judge bench of the LHC had on Oct 18 granted post-arrest bail to Ms Shah, who is also a granddaughter of former army chief Asif Nawaz Janjua, in the cases of atta...

MOHMAND: The administration of the Mohmand tribal district has decided to register non-custom paid vehicles in the area. According to a notification issued here on Thursday, the district administration and police would conduct physical inspection and check record of vehicles from October 23 to November 22 and then the non-custom paid vehicles would be allotted registration stickers and numbers. A meeting regarding the registration of non-custom paid vehicles was held on the instructions of deputy commissioner Dr Muhammad Ehteshamul Haq in Ghalanai, which was also attended by additional deputy commissioner Shakeel Ahmad, DSP Upper Mohmand Liaquat Ali, assistant commissioner, Upper Mohmand, Sajjad Hussain Afridi, assistant commissioner, Baizai subdivision, Fida Hussain and district accounts officer. The forum formulated a procedure for registration of non-custom paid vehicles in the tribal district. Meanwhile, the deputy commissioner said that the mining sector would be s...

LAHORE: A sessions court on Wednesday granted post-arrest bail to a Christian couple who were arrested on charges of desecrating the Holy Quran. The couple, Kiran Bibi and her husband Shoukat Masih, were accused of throwing torn pieces of the Quran from the roof of their house in the North Cantonment area. The complainant, Taimur, claimed that he saw the papers flying towards the ground when he was buying barbecue from a nearby shop near Rangers Headquarters. He went to the house and confronted Kiran Bibi, who said that her children might have done it. He then searched the house and found a pink school bag behind a water tank on the roof, which contained more torn pages. North Cantonment police had registered a case against the couple under Section 295-b of the Pakistan Penal Code, which carries a mandatory life sentence for desecrating the Holy Quran. The couple denied the charges and said that they were innocent. They applied for bail before additional district and ses...

KARACHI: A 16-year-old youth was caught in crossfire during, what police said, an ‘encounter’ in which three suspects were gunned down in the old city area of the city late Tuesday night. A passer-by was wounded in the clash, the police said on Wednesday. Giving details of the alleged encounter, the police said that two policemen riding a motorbike signalled the three suspects, also riding a motorcycle, to stop for checking in Marwari Lane. Instead, the suspects opened fire on the policemen and tried to speed away. The policemen chased them into the nearby Ghas Mandi area and challenged them. In the ensuing exchange of fire, the suspects were gunned down and a passer-by, Mohammed Umair, was also caught in crossfire and died, they said. Sixteen-year-old Umair was standing outside his home when a bullet, allegedly fired by the suspects, hit him on his head which proved fatal, said SHO Naseer Tanoli of the Eidgah police station. Law enforcers claim 16-year-old Umair sust...

Information Minister Murtaza Solangi meets Shafqat Mahmood at his residence in Lahore http://dlvr.it/Sxbbj1

At least one person was killed and six others injured in a grenade attack in Lyari’s Bihar Colony on Monday night, according to police. South DIG Syed Asad Raza told Dawn.com that unidentified individuals on a motorcycle threw a hand grenade outside a shop that had been closed for months before fleeing the scene. The authorities are investigating the motive behind the attack, the police official said before adding that it appeared to be a random act without a specific target. The DIG said that seven people sustained injuries, while one of them — a 35-year-old named Razia Mohammed Ali — was in critical condition before succumbing to her wounds. He said all of the injured were bystanders and had been transported to Dr Ruth Pfau Civil Hospital in Karachi. They were identified as Zohaib Javed, Khairullah, Wansh Dileep Kumar, Ateeqa Adam, Adil Adam and Ahsan Nabi. Meanwhile, Sindh Inspector General of Police Dr Raffat Mukhtar Raja sought details from the SSP Old City area ...

On BRI's tenth anniversary, docu-series shares human stories transformed by the project’s healing hands http://dlvr.it/SxVNhC

PM Kakar will hold bilateral meeting with Chinese President Xi Jinping on the occasion http://dlvr.it/SxSX6H

Saudi ambassador expresses support for the proposal presented by SAPM Jawad Sohrab Malik http://dlvr.it/SxSX0g

LAHORE: PML-N President Shehbaz Sharif on Friday reached Sheikhupura to mobilise workers ahead of the homecoming of party supremo Nawaz Sharif on Oct 21, but failed to unite two party groups — one led by Chaudhry Tanvir Hussain and the other by Javed Latif.   The outspoken Javed Latif did not turn up in the workers’ convention since it was hosted by Mr Hussain and the former had serious differences with the latter. In the party ranks, Javed Latif is considered to be from the Maryam group and Tanvir Hussain from the Shehbaz camp.  Early this week, Nawaz Sharif had asked his younger brother to immediately resolve differences among some party leaders of Punjab, particularly the Lahore chapter, to make the Oct 21 show successful.  Outspoken’ Javed Latif skips Sheikhupura power show The PML-N had already cancelled at least three rallies in Lahore, planned to build momentum ahead of Nawaz Sharif’s homecoming, in an apparent bid to prevent its workers from getting burnt...

ISLAMABAD: Ruling out reports about a massive disenfranchisement in the upcoming polls, the Election Commission of Pakistan on Friday said it had obtained data of 800,000 voters currently out of electoral rolls, from the National Data­base and Registration Authority (Nadra) on Oct 1, and their data entry was in progress. The ECP made it clear that all of them would be able to exercise their right to vote in the next general elections. Reacting to an analysis by a coalition of civil society organisations, the commission said as Oct 25 was the cut-off date for registration of voters as well as corrections in the voters’ data, all those to be issued CNICs by that date would be enrolled as voters. The commission said the analysis that the ECP data showed some 13m voters would be disenfranchised was contrary to facts and based on wrong information. Says data of 0.8m voters currently out of electoral rolls obtained from Nadra It said under Section 27 of the Elections A...

ISLAMABAD: Interim Education Minister Madad Ali Sindhi on Friday directed the relevant wing of his ministry to look into causes that delayed preparation of the country’s education policy. The education ministry has not introduced a new policy since 2009. Speaking to a group of journalists, the education minister said a new education policy should be formulated. He said after the 18th Constitutional Amendment, the province also had due role in formulating national education policy, therefore, he would also take up this issue with provincial ministries. He directed the concerned wing of the ministry to get input from provincial authorities in this regard. “We have inter-provincial education ministries conference forum; such things should be taken up on this forum,” he said. It is relevant to note here that the federal education ministry had not introduced a new education policy since 2009, however, a draft policy was prepared in 2016 and a national education polic...

ویب ڈیسک:سابق وزیراعلیٰ پنجاب اور پی ٹی آئی کے صدر چودھری پرویز الہٰی اور ان کے صاحبزادے مونس الہٰی کے خلاف منی لانڈرنگ کیس کی سماعت سپیشل کورٹ سینٹرل میں ہوئی جس میں چودھری پرویز الہٰی کو پیش کرنے کا مزید پڑھیں The post چودھری پرویز الہٰی کو بیٹے سمیت عدالت حاضری کا حکم جاری appeared first on Mashriq TV. http://dlvr.it/SxNJMz

10-5 majority verdict throws out all challenges to procedure act; right of appeal retrospectively struck down http://dlvr.it/SxKjt8

ویب ڈیسک: خیبرپختونخوا کی نگران حکومت نے سرکاری محکموں میں خدمات انجام دینے والے سرکاری ملازمین کو دہرے الاﺅنسز کی ادائیگی روکنے کا نوٹیفکیشن جاری کر دیا۔ نگران حکومت کی جانب سے جاری اعلامیے میں کہا گیا ہے کہ ڈیپوٹیشن مزید پڑھیں The post سرکاری ملازمین کا الاؤنس بند کرنے کا نوٹیفکیشن جاری appeared first on Mashriq TV. http://dlvr.it/SxH7Wf

ویب ڈیسک: پاکستان میں مقیم غیر قانونی افغانوں کا انخلاء مزید تیز، گزشتہ ایک ہفتے میں 6000 سے زائد افغان شہری واپس جا چکے ہیں۔ ذرائع کے مطابق افغان باشندوں کی واپسی میں تیزی لانے کیلئے صوبائی سٹیرنگ کمیٹی کا مزید پڑھیں The post افغانوں کا انخلاء مزید تیز، 6000 سے زائد لوٹ چکے appeared first on Mashriq TV. http://dlvr.it/SxH7L9

ویب ڈیسک: سپیکر خیبرپختونخوا اسمبلی مشتاق غنی کی جانب سے الیکشن کی تاریخ کیلئے کیس پر سماعت جسٹس اعجاز انور اور جسٹس شکیل احمد پر مشتمل دو رکنی بنچ نے کی۔ دوران سماعت جسٹس شکیل احمد نے استفسار کرتے ہوئے مزید پڑھیں The post الیکشن تاریخ، مشتاق غنی کی جانب سے دائر کیس کی سماعت ملتوی appeared first on Mashriq TV. http://dlvr.it/SxH77N

PESHAWAR: The Khyber Pakhtunkhwa government has introduced a new technology, the first of its kind in the country, to facilitate analysts to carry out inspection of suspected medicines on the spot and save time and risks associated with raw material analysis. “Since July 2022, we have tested 13,500 drugs in the main markets in Peshawar and other districts of which 372 were found spurious and 464 were substandard,” said Imranullah, the head of drug testing laboratory (DTL), Peshawar. He said that previously they had to test all suspected samples through traditional way that consumed times as well as ingredients but the new mechanism helped them to test more samples in the shortest possible time. “Two new vehicles purchased at Rs9 million and many equipment imported from the US at a cost of Rs18 million have been made operational last year,” said Imranullah. KP becomes first province of country to import the modern machine He said that the new technology, know as R...

مسلم لیگ ن کی چیف آرگنائزر مریم نواز نے غزہ پر اسرائیلی حملوں کی مذمت اور فلسطینیوں سے اظہار یکجہتی کرتے ہوئے کہا کہ آزادی کیلئے لڑنا فلسطینیوں کا حق ہے۔ ویب ڈیسک: مریم نواز نے اپنے بیان میں کہا مزید پڑھیں The post اسرائیل کیخلاف اپنی آزادی کیلئے لڑنا فلسطینیوں کا حق ہے، مریم نواز appeared first on Mashriq TV. http://dlvr.it/SxB1VP

KARACHI: Police on Saturday claimed to have arrested a man for his alleged involvement in harassing girl students of the University of Karachi when they were travelling in a van. A police spokesperson said that a week ago the suspect riding a motorbike had committed obscene acts while chasing the van of the girls near UBL Sports Complex. An FIR was registered at the Jauharabad police station and efforts were made to locate his whereabouts, he added. He said that with the help of technology, the police finally arrested the suspect, identified as Adeel Zafar. The police claimed to have recovered a small quantity of heroin from his possession. Last week, a video of the incident made by an occupant of the van had gone viral on social media, sparking public outrage over the rising crime of harassment against women. The police registered a case under Sections 294 (obscene acts and songs), 354 (assault or criminal force to woman with intent to outrage her modesty), and 509 (ins...

A file photo of Pride of Performance Muhammad Subhan Rathar playing Rabab in a cheerful mood. — Photo provided by author MUZAFFARABAD: Renowned Kashmiri singer and instrumentalist, Muhammad Subhan Rathar, had long yearned to exhibit his musicianship at least once before his departure from life along the banks of world famed Dal Lake in occupied Jammu and Kashmir, from where he had migrated to Azad Jammu and Kashmir nearly six decades ago. However, the 83 odd years old recipient of the Presidential Pride of Performance award breathed his last on Friday morning and was buried in a graveyard here along with his unfulfilled desire. He is survived by his wife - his lone attendant all the years of his infirmity and sickness. Mr Rathar, who was born in Hayatpora village of Budgam district, had a passion for music from a tender age. Initially, he used to sing in the chorus in musical events and later started a solo career. Owing to his charming voice and beautiful looks, he ea...

ISLAMABAD: Istehkam-i-Pakistan Party (IPP) Information Secretary Dr Firdous Ashiq Awan has said people of Pakistan are fed up with the current political culture and the IPP will emerge as a new political force in the upcoming elections. Addressing a news conference here on Saturday, she said the manifesto of the IPP was a roadmap for economic development of the country - ‘without any speed breaker.’ She said the new party had been registered with the Election Commission and its symbol was “Falcon”, adding the party had launched its mass contact drive. Headed by Jehangir Khan Tareen, the IPP is scheduled to hold a public rally on October 13 in Jhang followed by workers’ conventions in several cities of Punjab. “Time has come to implement the slogan of the IPP for construction, development and prosperity of Pakistan,” she said, adding the manifesto of the party was like a passport for the poor towards prosperity. She added that the establishment of Special ...

LAHORE: The caretaker government of Punjab has ordered jail trials of Pakistan Tehreek-i-Insaf (PTI) leaders and workers for their alleged role in the May 9 riots in different cities of the province, including Lahore, Rawalpindi, Gujra­nwala, Mianwali and Faisalabad. The home department on Friday issued separate notifications for jail trials in each of the 31 cases registered across the province. Sources said the decision has been taken in order to maintain law and order and avoid hassle in bringing the suspects to anti-terrorism courts on an almost daily basis. It is easy for the judges to travel to the jail instead of transporting a host of suspects to the courts every day, an official said. Some critics, however, expressed their apprehensions over the transparency of court proceedings inside the jail, as the media is not given access to cover those trials. Critics doubt transparency of court proceedings inside jail, where media won’t have access Joint inve...

ویب ڈیسک: آئی سی سی ورلڈ کپ 2023ء میں پاکستان نے اپنے سفر کا آغاز کر دیا ہے۔ بھارت کی میزبانی میں کھیلے جانے والے میچ میں نیدر لینڈ نے ٹاس جیت کر بولنگ کا فیصلہ کیا۔ پاکستانی ٹیم کی مزید پڑھیں The post آئِی سی سی ورلڈ کپ۔ پاکستان کی بیٹنگ لائن مشکلات کا شکار appeared first on Mashriq TV. http://dlvr.it/Sx4RSN

The Islamabad police have said its Anti-Extremism Unit has “completed contacts” with all seminaries regarding not allowing strangers to reside at or spend the night at mosques and madressahs. In a post on social media platform X (formerly Twitter) on Thursday night, it stated, “There is no permission to stay in mosques. Strangers will not be allowed to stay at or spend the night in mosques and madressahs.” It did not elaborate any further on what a “stranger” is. With regard to opening seminaries, the police said it had already issued directives on the matter. “The permission of the authorised bodies is necessary to open an educational institution or madressah.” The statement quoted the capital police and the district administration appreciating the ulema and administrators who abided by the law. The move comes amid heightened terrorism in the country in recent months, especially in Khyber Pakhtunkhwa and Balochistan, after the banned militant T...

Foreign Office clarifies crackdown against illegal immigrants is not against a particular nationality http://dlvr.it/Sx45C3

KARACHI: The Election Commission of Pakistan (ECP) has directed Sindh chief secretary and inspector general of police to withdraw security protocol provided to former provincial ministers and advisers. In a letter addressed to the chief secretary and IGP on Thursday, the ECP asked them to withdraw the protocol of former government officials immediately and send a compliance report within three days. The ECP had earlier on August 15 sent a letter to provincial authorities for withdrawal of official protocol of the then members of former chief minister Murad Ali Shah-led cabinet and government officials. Published in Dawn, October 6th, 2023 http://dlvr.it/Sx44lb

KARACHI: Despite having bus rapid transit (BRT) system since December 2021, hundreds of thousands of people in Karachi are still deprived of availing the full benefit of the multi-billion rupee service because of non-execution of a planned merger of two major lines — Green and Orange. The delay has kept around over a million Karachiites away from enjoying an economical and comfortable travelling service, it emerged on Thursday. Caretaker Sindh Chief Minister retired Justice Maqbool Baqar termed the situation ‘not satisfactory’ when he was informed about the progress during a meeting held at CM House to review different projects of the Transport & Mass Transit Department. It came out during the meeting that the potential of the BRT system could not be exploited to the full depriving a large number of Karachiites of an economical public transport facility. Proposed integration will increase Orange Line’s ridership from 3,000 to 25,000 per day, meeting told A st...